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Post by carlywarly on Nov 17, 2003 21:33:09 GMT -5
probably unrelated, but get one of your Dealers to look up known ECU faults on 1999 306 1.4's. I used to own one and it developed exactly the same problem. It would not idle at all, revved itself up and down, and the revs just dropped right to zero. I had to jump start it by pulling the clutch out in gear if the car was moving.
The Peugeot Dealer off the M621 in Leeds (leeds city centre turn-off) found a peugeot technical document saying this was a problem with the ECU's in which they could develop this fault. They charged me £750 to sort it (new ECU)
and they say Alfas are unreliable. Hah!
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Post by gareth on Nov 21, 2003 8:05:24 GMT -5
I have a 99 206 gti, V reg and it has suffered from the cutting out problem ever since I passed the 30,000 mile mark. It tends to come and go and was actually at its worst after my £300 major service. I have found that if you leave the aircon switched on the engine idle speed slightly increases and it has never cut out on me since! It only cuts out when the aircon is totally off or when it is set to eco. Anyone else tried this? gaz
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Post by Dan on Nov 22, 2003 11:23:39 GMT -5
hi all! mine is a 99gti T371*** Waters has been idling a little rough for a while, gear stick shakes a bit at idle and revs drop sometimes, nearly stalling. other day it cut out with all the lights illuminating, going to pug in couple of days, any ideas in what I should say?? I had a 99 106gti which had the same prob and they fobbed me off - help! Sorry all, I dont fully qualify to speak on the subject of 206 engines cutting out, but like Simon here, I have a 99 106 GTI and its engine cuts out a lot, warm or cold, within 15 mins of starting. Its particully sluggy when cold, but even when its warm it can be a pain. The strange thing is that my local dealer was an official dealer (its only small) but they became semi-official. Im awaiting delivery of a 180 GTI and I mentioned the 106's engine problems when talking about the part-ex that Im lined up for, and they fobbed it off because the 106 is "a sports model"... So I think even the smaller, not fully official Peugeot dealers know that there is a problem with the 106 and 206 engines.. Not very good is it? Dan
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Post by angela on Nov 24, 2003 6:06:04 GMT -5
hi im new to this site nice to see im not the only one with stalling problems with my 206. Mine is LA02 the problem started when the colder weather came last winter at this point my car was just 3 months old. I could be just driving along and come to a roundabout or set of lights any where which would involve the car slowing just slightly and the car would cut out / stall ! this was scary the first time as i was going round a roundabout ! After this happened a few times i took it back and they did something to the ecu. this was then ok and the problem happened only occasionally, now i find the winter is coming and the same thing is happening again.
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Post by Wardy! on Nov 27, 2003 10:47:08 GMT -5
Gutted, on my way in London to my sisters place and it cut out on me slowing down for some traffic lights, has been the first and only time it's done it to me, definately was not an engine stall as I drop to neutral and keep braking when approaching lights (maybe not the best thing but oh a few friends do it too)
I hope it was a one off.
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Post by PugBabe on Dec 19, 2003 9:23:43 GMT -5
I was coming home from work, and took me foot of the gas to break and the car cut out!
I have a LX, Y592 D**
It wouldnt hold its revs and everytime i changed gear it was cutting out too. It was very scarey!
The engine light came on and i took it to the garage straight away. The garage turned the car off and when they turned it on again the light had gone off. They plugged it in and no faults were logged.
Cant find out what was wrong with it and to make matters worse, my warantee has just run out on the car too!
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Post by miner on Dec 21, 2003 14:29:39 GMT -5
mine has started to do it again. only on return to idle either dies or bounces and survives either way a pain in the arse
going back to the dealer even though its out of warranty pug claim it will not cost me
i keep suggesting the stepper but they say no
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Post by holman on Dec 30, 2003 21:02:02 GMT -5
Pug GTi V641 *** I am so fed up with my 206. The revs dont really know what to do. There up then they drop, up again and down. But what happened (See below) the other day has really ticked me off. My car has never cut out before! I only ever had the occasional rev up or down which i thought was normal but now its getting worse. I seem to be getting the same problems the other owners have posted on here This was the start of my engine cutting out.... I was sitting in MacDonalds car park eating my food and listening to the radio with the engine off when all of the sudden the radio turns off and the display starts to flash. I had only stopped for about 5mins before I tried to leave. when I tryed to leave the car park the battery had gone dead and it wasnt going no where. I had to call the RAC out to get it going. Once the battery had enough power in it to turn on we tryed starting it up to find that it would only start up and die again within a few seconds. The revs picked up to begin with but as they went down it just died. It did this about 5 times, it was behaving very strange. Once we got it to stay on, the revs were only ticking over at half as what they should be and as soon as you reved the car they would die down and turn off again. I had to drive the car home by keeping the revs up because if they went under 1000rpm the car would die. Stopping at traffic lights was a pain. The car had never done anything like this before and drove without fault an hour before this. The engine noises are different too. Its like the whole thing is just collapsing on me. The ECU light does the occasional flashing and the revs drop and pick up again, all in the time of about 2sec. If any one has any info that can help I would be very pleased as im about 99% hacked off with this car and wish i hadnt got rid of my corsa. UPDATE: I took my car to pug and they cant see it for a whole week but they say that it could be something to do with the coil system. Also while i was down there they said that my car has a recall on it to have the "Brake Pins" replaced which I never knew nothing about till now. My 206 is a Gti on a 99 V Plate. Might be worth checking out if you havnt been called yet.
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Post by robadob on Jan 8, 2004 15:54:53 GMT -5
Car: Peugeot 206 GLX 1.6l Reg: Y18 R** (April 2001) Milage: 30124 Owned from new. Since the end of summer I have been experiencing a similar "engine randomly cutting out and dodgy revs" problem. When I think about it I can date the problem back to about 9 months after I got the car. I noticed that when I was driving on the motorway, after about 30 mins I would experience small drops in power when cruising around 70-80. The only way to describe it is imagine if someone was pressing the brakes very lightly and then suddenly taking them off again. I basically ignored this as it didnt really affect the drive and was hardly noticable - and it only occured at these speeds when in 4th or 5th. This problem never really went away, but at the end of summer 2003 the apple went sour. It was a blisteringly hot day and I had just driven from Southampton, up the M3 to Reading. The drive had been fine. I stopped off at my house for about 15 mins (so the car was parked in the shade, off) and then went to pick up a mate. About 5 mins after driving off from his house the revs suddenly dropped from around 3500 to about 600 as I was accelerating through 2nd. I thought that this was odd but put it down to something like sucking in a lump of nuts from the petrol tank. 5 minutes later the same thing happened only this time I was crusing in 3rd. Then all hell broke lose, the power went completely (foor to floor = about 500 revs) so I pulled into a turning and the car promptly stalled. I let it sit for 5-10 mins or so to "cool down" and tried starting it again to which I was greeted with lots of moaning and after 10 attempts I gave up. I'd like to note that no lights had come on and the engine was measuring normal temp., and fuel 3/4 full. After waiting round for 40 mins I tried again and managed to get it started (although it was DEF. not normal running) and we carefully drove back to my house (with the revs occasionally, and randomly, dropping away). We let the car stand for a few hours, checked all the water, oil, obvious electric connections, etc. and tried it again (by now the sun was going down and the air getting cooler). The car started fine, although the engine warning light was now permenantly on. We decided against travelling back to Southampton and I phoned the local garage the next day. They asked me to bring it in, which I did, and after a period of investigation (lasting about 3 hours) they came back to me with a "faulty air pressure sensor". They also said that it could have something to do with my "non-standard peugeot part" - my K&N induction kit; to which I say "unlikely" as it run's fine in every other 206 I've heard of. Anyway, they happily replaced the part, under warranty I might add. The car was fine and the warning light off... for a week. After a week it started doing dodgy things with the revs again, but this time no light ever came on. The problems persisted on and off for a few weeks and noone knew what was wrong with it (we checked a lot of stuff - air filters, injection pumps, gave the engine a clean out, etc). The problem went away, so I was happy again, although a bit suspicious and worried. No problems, until the cold weather started rolling in. Now, if I don't idle the car for 5-10 mins before driving off it just cuts out at the end of my road with no warning. I've tried driving the whole way in 1st, or staying in 2nd, etc. but the same result every time. I think I've narrowed it down to taking a bump in the road between 8 and 20 mph causes it to cut out. This has me thinking that it may well be something electrical, eg. a loose connection somewhere. I have not experienced any more problems with the revs while driving normally else where, until today when their were several dips in power when I was driving to work (which set me off investigating stuff on the net and landed up here). After reading through other people's descriptions of a similar problem I'm a bit happier that it's "not just me" and I will try playing around with the electrics seeing if I can find a loose connection. Hope everyone gets their problems sorted! -Rob
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Post by gailann on Jan 9, 2004 9:28:13 GMT -5
As a peugeot virgin I am now extremely alarmed that my new car is displaying signs of cutting out! Have a 4 month old, 03 reg Pug 206 entice (1.1 - 2200 miles), which yesterday decided to start cutting out as I was slowing down and braking. As I was still moving in traffic it seemed to click straight back on again. The engine ignition light came on, handbrake and battery light, as if it was Stalling but then clicked back on again! This happened about 6 times in all. There was a noticeable clicking on/off noise, but car kicked back in, until I drew to a stop to let passenger out. Then she completely died, lost power steering and ground to a halt. She started back up straight away, but am concerned now! Obviously she's still under warranty but shapeless Dealer can't see until next Weds at the earliest. (when I rang Dealer that I bought her from he said she needed to be seen ASAP because of the loss of power-steering) The car went fine this morning as it goes, but I am still not happy that this should happen to a new car! Any idea if I can reject the car / ask for replacement if this is the start of something terrible?
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Post by 206deadecu on Mar 16, 2004 15:07:00 GMT -5
Add one more 206 to the list. 1.4 LX, 2000 model, imported from France, only 30k miles (well 48k km). The dealer wants £800 to replace the ECU, saying that it's "definitely the ECU". I want a 2nd opinion...
I should say that the symptoms are: cruising fine, starting, idleing, running fine, but every so often (increasingly often) it'll lose all power (so far it's only done it in gear), and the engine fault light will come on.. briefly.. then the light goes out, the power comes back, the car runs as well as it did before..!
#nosmileys#nosmileys
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Post by dmh on Mar 26, 2004 5:22:16 GMT -5
another 1.4 206 to add to the list.
Here is the response from Peugeot Customer Service, if it helps!
Thank you for your e mail dated 25th March 2004.
We are currently investigating the problem that you raise with your 1.4 206. Our technical division is aware of the characteristics that you report and are searching for a permanent solution.
If the fault is reported within Warranty then the fix will be made available on a free of charge basis. As soon as we have a solution we will release it to our Dealer network.
Yours sincerely
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Post by James P on Mar 31, 2004 12:54:12 GMT -5
I wouldn’t get too hopeful from that reply if I were you I had exactly the same message related to me when I was having the same problems with my XSi last year – You can see my account at the top of page 1 on this thread. I know for a fact that there was a meeting of Peugeot Master Technicians on July 28th last year at which this very problem was raised so they’re really not looking into it very hard are they? No sign of any resolution yet that I can see! Have a look at the ‘Engine Cutting Out. Causes & solutions?’ thread in the FAQ section of this forum. Here you’ll get a good account of what I went through – ultimately the only way they could fix it was to completely replace the engine in my car – And that was after a year of return visits to get it fixed. But at least mines running fine now.
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Post by robadob on Mar 31, 2004 17:48:42 GMT -5
This may be completely unrelated, but in a way it is.
I was suffering from the afformentioned problem (see my earlier post) untill last week I got my passanger side wing mirror smashed off by a careless lorry driver (thx who ever you are for not stopping - f****er). Ever since it's been knocked off my car has been perfectly fine. Stunning infact - I had it tested on a rolling road today and it's putting out 120bhp @ 5600rpm, which ain't half bad for a 1.6l engine. I've since replaced the mirror with a new one. The only thing I can think is that the impact giggled some wires into place somewhere or that the temperature sensor in the wing mirror had something to do with the stalling/odd idling issue.
Bizzare or what?
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Post by zookeeper on Apr 1, 2004 10:41:05 GMT -5
HIB ####
Hi, I've had this same problem at least 3 times now. I only have a 30 minute drive to work but it normally resolves itself by the time I need to use it again in the evening.
It happens:
* in traffic, which there is a lot of on my route, so constantly restarting the car is a complete pain.
* approaching roundabouts, again which there a lot of.
* traffic lights, not so many of
* and even slowing down if you need to change in to a low gear. Dipping the clutch at all seems to set it off.
I haven't bothered my dealer about it because I can never be bothered spluttering and stalling my way to the other side of town to take it. And I know that if I get it there, the chances of it actually still doing it when they come to check it will be minimal. However it is good to know it's not just my car as I assumed it was.
Another interesting note is that it does occur during particularly cold spells. The last time it happened it was minus 13 celcius, so I don't know whether I'm just being a bit mercenary, although the other two times it happened to be cold and foggy.
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