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Post by PaulF on Feb 25, 2004 8:26:36 GMT -5
I am after some mudflaps.
Either simple generic ones or (preferably) the body styled ones but does anyone know where to buy mudflaps. I looked on Halfords but couldnt see any!
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Post by BigOL on Feb 25, 2004 15:25:42 GMT -5
Dealers Parts Department or try DCP, they have a lot of kit, but if you want original, its a dealer job.
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Post by PaulF on Feb 28, 2004 12:01:16 GMT -5
Just been looking through the website for my local pug dealer.... ... ...Please can someone tell me that i dont have to buy the "Luxury Pack 1" to get my styled mudflaps Thats £215 hey must sell them seperately dont they
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Post by Adi on Feb 28, 2004 12:14:43 GMT -5
It really depends on the style you want as to where you get them from. When I tried to get some I wanted some slightly larger ones to protect the rear SP arches. The normal small ones wouldn't cover the front wider 195/205 tyres. There was 2 real choices. Sparco make a range of plastic ones but are only available in Red White or Blue. If you buy some plastic sealer you can seal them and spray them black. I bought some polyurethane sheeting for £20 and cut some out to the shape required. I then went to B&Q and bought some spray sealer and black spray paint. If you look at a piccy of my car in the Members Gallery, you will see they are quite subtle.
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Post by PaulF on Feb 28, 2004 13:43:07 GMT -5
You have just made me realise something Adi. Initially i wanted mudflaps (colour coded) all round but then i relaised .....whats the point in having them at the front. They are going to get full of dirt and noone will be able to see them. So, just the back then. Now im wondering if they will solve my problem. When i looked at my car this morning it was ABSOLUTELY FILTHY. I dont just mean dirty, i mean FILTHY!!! I had only done motorway driving last night The sides and the back of the car were a mess but im wondering if mudflaps would actually stop the back of the car getting dirty. Cant quite see were the dirt comes from that covers my back window and panels.
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Post by BigOL on Feb 28, 2004 13:55:58 GMT -5
From what I remember the front ones are the only ones that are effective and they stop the chipping of the SP arches to a degree. The rears are not going to stop the back end and the rear side panels from getting dirty. All they do is reduce the spary thrown up but wet roads so you don't blind the car behind.
What I think you are trying to acheve is to stop the bootlid area from getting messed up. This is caused by the drag winds. As you car cuts the air with the front its aerodynamic, when the car has finished cutting the air the air displaced swirls down and round behind your car, this causes the crap that you car has passed though and what is thrown up by the rear wheels to be pushed against the rear of the car. This can be reduced by getting an aerodynamic spoiler, which actually upsets the air flow as its passes over the rear of the car and directs it up, thus not causing the clash of air flows and the eddys behind the car to force the crap against the rear window. The faster the speed the more drag winds and more wind force you will create. I'm sure there is a technical terms for this, but thats what causes you back end to get so dirty. Happens to lots of cars.
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Post by teddy on Feb 28, 2004 16:42:17 GMT -5
Nothing will stop stuff like salt getting stuck to the back of a car. Any car with a vertical rear , 206, Punto, Focus etc will get dirty. As you go along a low pressure area behind the car is made and anything light thrown up from the wheels gets sucked into it.
Mudflaps wont stop salt or spray attaching to the back of the car. Spray is airborne and is fairly light, this too gets sucked up behind the car. Mudflaps do just what the name suggests. They stop mud and stones etc from being thrown up.
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Post by Jonney Napalm on Feb 28, 2004 19:46:28 GMT -5
I seem to think that the rear spoiler makes the back of the car get even more dirty. I don't think it actually has any aerodynamic advantages either, it just looks good. If you direct the air over the roof upwards at the back of the car you will actually cause even more of a low pressure area (depression) behind the car and this will set up bigger vortices which in turn will suck up more of the spray onto your back window. The short answer is to just live with it, or build a large aerodynamically shaped wedge for the back of your motor. lol
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Post by PaulF on Feb 28, 2004 21:08:40 GMT -5
WOW You guys really do know your stuff dont you !! That is seriously impressive. I never in a million years come up wth an explanation anywhere near that. It fits in with exactly what i relaised on the way home. I realised it was salt (road grit) that had covered my car last night. Now I know why Cheers! BTW, yeah, will forget about mudflaps now ;D
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Post by BigOL on Feb 29, 2004 7:53:37 GMT -5
I was a little off with my explaination, but the theory was near enough correct.
Now the thing to do, is wash that salt and road stuff off the car. You don't have to wash the whole car, just get that stuff off, dilute it somewhat. If not that will eat into the clear coat top finish pretty quick and over time kick off corrosion.
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Post by Mullet on Mar 3, 2004 10:45:54 GMT -5
Interestingly if you want to protect the rear sp arches you can by these plastic 'clip-on' protectors that sit and cover the bottom 2-3 inches of the rear arches (where the get chipped)... Never seen them for sale but have seen them on other GTi's etc...
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Post by chi_chee on Jul 17, 2004 12:31:32 GMT -5
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Post by Wardy! on Jul 21, 2004 11:35:40 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a technical terms for this, but thats what causes you back end to get so dirty. Happens to lots of cars. Are you reffering to slipstream here?
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Post by chi_chee on Jul 21, 2004 15:18:19 GMT -5
no not slip-stream, slip-stream is when you drive very close to the car in front (or ride a bike/run behind someone) and use the vaccum left by the object in front so there is no or very little air resistant against you as you can then very quickly accelerate, build up momentum and pull out last minute and overtake......you see this in F1 racing, touring cars, cycling and running. yeh the spoiler generates down-force, so better handling (potentially) and a good looking car (supposedly!) and thats bout it!
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Post by BigOL on Jul 21, 2004 18:59:09 GMT -5
Its all about air flows and drag co-efficients Wardy. The higher the drag co-efficient the more suction behind the car. You seen cars in wind tunnels?? See the air flow over the car, well this particular car is very aerodynamic as the smoke is not being swirled by the shape of the car, but you can see the two smoke trails closest the roof take a dip towards the rear. This is what happens in your Pug, however the back end is very steep and this causes low pressure area, which allows the water and crud from the rear wheels to flow upwards with the wind from under the car, this then hits the over the top wind flows and gets pushed about, and it goes towards the line of least resistance which is the low pressure area of your rear window. Slipstream is exactly how chichee described it.
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