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Post by Daz on Jun 1, 2004 7:54:48 GMT -5
Ok I've read all the other threads but I'm still confused by this one,if I sit in the car and lock the drivers door,nothing else happens apart from the drivers door locks,the passenger door remains open etc. If I close down the passenger door side,it bounces back up,passenger and driver side door. If I go outside try to lock it with the key from the drivers side,both doors locking bounce up,same happens when I try to lock it from the passenger side. Does this mean both sides are faulty? or is there a fault elsewhere? Daz
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Post by BigOL on Jun 1, 2004 9:03:02 GMT -5
One side is faulty. When you lock the car with the key, the electronic locking control senses that a door has unlocked again and therefore unlocks all the doors again.
This is almost certainly a door acutator control box fault. Diag knows of a test you define which locking control box is a fault, it requires you to sit in the car and push the pins down together and see which one bounces back up, or something like that, then its the opposite to that lock thats faulty. Diag will set you straight as I am speaking from memory.
The lock control boxes are not cheap, I think I read here somewhere that they were about £60 from Pug.
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Post by Daz on Jun 1, 2004 9:16:26 GMT -5
The passenger side door is the only one to bounce all the time. The drivers door just locks,doesn't bounce! The boot always remains open,even when locked from inside manually. I got both doors to close using the key,then went inside the house came out and both had opened again. Is a box actuator easy enough to replace? Any diagrams to where this is. Thanks again, Daz
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Post by BigOL on Jun 1, 2004 9:22:08 GMT -5
The door lock acuator is behind the door locking mechanism. You get to it by removing the door card, and also I think the door lock itself.
Its wired up with an 8 pin connector, and you should be able to just unplug and swap a new one in.
Diag will need to confirm this, but its the way I would do it.
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Post by Daz on Jun 1, 2004 9:30:22 GMT -5
Passenger or drivers side you reckon is gubbed then? Daz
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Post by BigOL on Jun 1, 2004 10:06:05 GMT -5
I dunno, without following the diagnosis instructions given by Diag once, to be definately sure. I know one thing, one of them is buggered ;D
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Post by Daz on Jun 1, 2004 11:59:17 GMT -5
Just phoned the Peugoet dealer they want £97 for the one side! Just hope Diag diagnoses the right side for me! Hope to hear from you asap m8. Daz
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Post by diag2000 on Jun 2, 2004 16:14:54 GMT -5
Humm sounds a bit different to me. With you saying that the boot doesn't lock at any time then i would have thought that the fault might lay there. The way to determind which side it is when sat in the car with all doors shut press down the o/s lock button .then try the n/s. if when the o/s is pressed and just the o/s locks then this one isn't sending a signal to the other side to lock.if the n/s is pressed and they bounce then the n/s is sending a signal to which the o/s is not responding and so it bounces and vice verse I know it's all n/s and o/s but stick with it. It is quite rare for the boot motor to go but it can happen and cause the same thing. there are different types of latch/locking motor depending on weather it has dead locking or not to be honnest it would be in your interests to let peugeot look at it and tell you which one is faulty .They are a doddle to fit. 1, remove the inner door trim 2, carefully remove the back bit of the white door membrain(use a sharp knife to cut the glue that sticks it to the door ) 3, remove the outer door lock by removing the "U" clip holding it in place 4, have a good look inside you should see three metal bars (1 for the outer handel ,1 for the inner handle and 1 for the lock button) disconnect the outer and inner handel rods and the electrical plug 5, on the rear most edge of the door undo the 3 T40 torx screws and remove the latch/motor assembly 6, swop over the internal lock button rod and then refit in reverse of above. Just a note if you car is pre DAM 8576 then you will need to modify the wiring see here www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/base/workshop.htm and go for electrical and then 206 door actuater for the part numbers and such. If you need more info just ask
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Post by Daz on Jun 2, 2004 18:36:13 GMT -5
Ok thanks for getting back to me m8, does anyone have the part number handy? as my brother in law works for Citroen,claims there the same parts and cheaper,need the part number for the Peugeot one though, I have a 1999 V Reg 206 GTi,so it looks like I'll have to modify the new actuator. I'll probably buy the drivers side first,then if that doesn't work the passenger side,my local Peugeot dealer are hopeless,so I'll have to do it myself. Daz
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Post by diag2000 on Jun 3, 2004 15:02:17 GMT -5
If your brother inlaw works for citroen then their diagnostic tool should interface with the peugeot ask him to check it out to be sure which one is faulty.Sorry not sure of the part number.
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Post by Daz on Jun 4, 2004 10:55:29 GMT -5
Ok just back from 2 auto electricians,both couldn't tell me what door was buggered,one of them does the work for my local Peugeot garage. One of them phoned to ask if they could have both actuators to try,Peugeot garage said no problem,but if the sealed bags that they come in are ripped,then they'll charge them,so back to square 1. Phoned the Peugeot garage,cant book me into 20th of this month,jokers that they are. So looks like I'll have to buy the drivers side first,then if that fails the passenger side. I dont like asking the brother in law,tad awkward anyways,so I'll have to do it myself. Why are Peugeots built so crap? from day 1 I've had bother with mine, 3 steering racks,3 catalytic converters,water pump,new front struts,new brake discs all round,wishbones replaced twice now,and the list goes on,my 1999 206 GTi has only done 23,000 miles. Watchdog next! Daz
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Post by pugwash on Jun 4, 2004 14:09:23 GMT -5
Daz do you know anyone else with a pug that would let you try there actuators
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Post by Daz on Jun 5, 2004 14:01:12 GMT -5
Nope all my friends have real cars (kidding),I do like my pug,just get a bit p*ssed of with it at times. Either I'll phone around other Peugeot garages on Monday or bite the bullet and fit a drivers door actuator to start with. I'll keep ya posted! Thanks for all the replies guys,appreciated very much. Daz
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Post by Daz on Jun 6, 2004 11:51:06 GMT -5
Ok Diag I'm going to buy a new actuator tomorrow,where is it I find out if it's DAM 8576 or not,and if it is I need to order the 3 other things mentioned with the wiring diagram? Cheers Daz
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Post by tricky on Jun 7, 2004 6:00:04 GMT -5
i had a similar problem last year. Peugeot said that its a design fault with the locks, that allows water to get in. They had to replace the locks and reconfigure the wiring......which cost a small fortune.....luckily there was a few months left of the warranty
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