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Post by MarkyBoy on Apr 5, 2005 16:38:30 GMT -5
I'm part-ex'ing a reliable (168,000 mile reliable) Vauxhall Cavalier '94 Motorsport for an '03 Quicksilver 1.4 with 20,000 on the clock and 13 months remaining warranty, from my local Pug delaer.
Am I looking at a potential disaster?
I've already arranged the finance, (screen price £7595, got it for £6783 after part-ex) and I'm supposed to pick it up on Friday.
I've read the Problem Index on Nigel's site and (having had a car that has only required wear & tear parts and regular servicing), I'm somewhat concerned that I'm buying into a whole lotta trouble!
Would you recommend I buy it, or should I look at something other than a Pug?
I've liked the look of the 206 since I first saw it enter the WRC but only heard about the "WatchDog" incident *AFTER* slapping down my deposit!
Now I'm not so sure...
I stand to lose my deposit, but I'd much rather lose that, than spend the rest of my time chasing to and from the dealers (at least for the next 12 months when the warranty expires, anyway!).
So wat'cha reckon?
Personally, I think I'd rather take a hit of £100 and walk...
Sorry to "drop" this on you all, but I'd be grateful for any feedback (positive or negative) you could give.
Regards
Mark
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Post by M3RAN on Apr 5, 2005 16:50:32 GMT -5
emm i dont know where to start....from my experience of being on this forum for jus under a year i have come to notice that new models and higher spec models are the ones with the problems....... only problem i had with my 2001 1.1 after buying it was a servo (which was wear & tear).... some one had problems with a brand new showroom 206...you jus have to read the problem index.... i having owned a 206 would say emmm well for emm that price go for something else .....wouldnt dream of buying a french car for that price...sorry...but wait for other responses i'm jus the ye old wise moanin modder  |
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Post by LeeXS on Apr 6, 2005 5:22:18 GMT -5
Hi there!!
The Quiksilver is a really nice car - 1.4 16V I believe!! The 206 is a gr8 looking car and is good in many aspects.
I think at the mo, the cut out problems have been putting alot of people off, but just recently many people have had their problems sorted out. I believe Pug are starting to find some faults and realising how to fix them.
I am looking at getting the 206 GTi - prob around the £6k so I know how you feel. It is alot of money if things do go wrong!!
But I wouldnt let this stop you, many people join the forum as they need help and advice, so the majority on here have a prob with their cars. Just think how many 206's have been sold, the % of those with problems is nothin compared to the amount that have hit the roads. Most 206 have no probs!!
This is really a bad place for you to look before you get a 206 cause there are many problems with 206's on here.
But just think, those with out the problems dont need to visit a site like this (unless they mod). So you are only really hearing the bad side.
I personally would go for it, you still have warranty and 4 a long time at that.
Hope this helps!!
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Post by teddy on Apr 6, 2005 5:35:40 GMT -5
Every car has it's problems. Obviously those with 206's are highlighted more on 206 forums!
Just buy it and like anything if it's looked after it will be fine.
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Post by BigOL on Apr 6, 2005 6:50:12 GMT -5
Every car has it's problems. Obviously those with 206's are highlighted more on 206 forums! Just buy it and like anything if it's looked after it will be fine. I agree with that!! You can't say that you are about to buy a pig of a pug, but you have warranty, which is always good. But as teddy says if its looked after then the most of the baddies will stay away, and Pug cannot refute the cutout and ECU problem that seems to dog most people so that should be sorted if it happens. It so easy to read this place and read the doom and gloom aspect, but with a mass volume car like a 206 you can get as many good ones and you can bad ones. Personally I never had a glitch hit my GTi when I had it, it always started and always went like a storm, but I never used it constantly, but when I did use it I used it hard, and it stayed together. |
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Post by I Want A Rover :-( on Apr 6, 2005 12:46:28 GMT -5
Buy ANYTHING else. Over 30 faults on mine, many of them dangerous.
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Post by MarkyBoy on Apr 6, 2005 14:05:09 GMT -5
I went to the dealers (Perry's of Bolton) with a copy of the watchdog report today and told them I was exteremely concerned about this and that I was
considering cancelling my order.
I was assured by the salesman (I know, salesmen will tell you anything to get or keep a sale!) that in the 3 & 1/2 years he'd worked for Peugeot, he'd not had *ANY* 206s with cut-out problems returned for warranty work!
I asked him if I could have the details of the previous owner, and at first, he agreed pending contacting the owner to ask their permission, but came back with something he called "one better".
He produced a printed report in my presence, listing Warranty work carried out on the car I've paid a deposit on.
Below, I've listed the contents of the report.
I suspect that with 4 faults fixed on one visit, the previous owner decided to trade it in!
The "promising" aspect of this is that none of the faults listed appear to be related to the cut-out problems highlighted elsewhere, and none have re-occurred!
They're turning the Pre-Delivery Inspection into a full 20,000 mile service (FOC) and are willing to replace the coil during the service at no cost to myself either.
I've been told that the Director has given his word that if I have the "cut-out" problem with the car during its warranty period, they'll replace the car and they've agreed to give this in writing.
Warranty Repairs Already done:
25/01/05:
Brake Vacuum Hose
25/01/05:
New Radiator
25/01/05:
Radio (Remove & Refit)
25/01/05:
Amplifier (?)
20/07/04:
Sensor
25/11/03:
Moulding
27/05/03:
Air Conditioning
Quite a comprehensive list, no?
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Post by I Want A Rover :-( on Apr 6, 2005 14:21:17 GMT -5
Hmm, which sensor? Could be related to an appearance of the dreaded engine diagnostic light (they like to blame the sensors rather than expensive parts), which could in turn be cut-out related.
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Post by Blackpug on Apr 6, 2005 14:35:23 GMT -5
I changed coil on mine because of misfiring. My wife had 206 look for 2.5 years. Only problem was burst radiator changed under warranty (same as yours). If dealer are willing to change car during warranty period - go for it. Look thro' other forums such as 'car mechanics magazine' forum and you'll see that its not only Peugeot that have problems. As others have said, you only hear about bad things. As for the list, previous owner could have been picky. None of them look serious.
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Post by BigOL on Apr 7, 2005 1:43:00 GMT -5
I was assured by the salesman (I know, salesmen will tell you anything to get or keep a sale!) that in the 3 & 1/2 years he'd worked for Peugeot, he'd not had *ANY* 206s with cut-out problems returned for warranty work! Thats BS, everyone has heard of it, but he has been told by Pug to keep his gob shut and deny it, so that he may sing from the same hymn sheet as Pug HQ does. That I think could have been a recall not a warranty item Not unusual, can be done with a stone quite easily, luck of the draw Would ask which one that was, and come back here, I think Blackpug has a good point about it fixing the fault light. Although I could have been a genuine sensor failure as the fuel tank sender is a common sensor to go pop Would like to know what went wrong there, cos they won't regas under warranty, so I am guessing a holed compressor, which again is so easy to do with a flying stone as the compressor is swung underneath. Not really, I think thats about normal |
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Post by LeeXS on Apr 7, 2005 9:25:35 GMT -5
Sounds like there's no strange probs with that mate - i'd go 4 it!! If you have it in writing about the cut out prob then thats fine, dont miss out on a good car cause of the fear of a prob occuring that isn't there yet!!! Go for it!!  |
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Post by Wardy! on Apr 12, 2005 1:22:01 GMT -5
Sure it looks a little dis-heartening when you read the list but as Big has said going through each point individually it's not really that problematic. 206 has had a bad rep recently for some of their range, but perhaps it's because the 206 is one of the most popular cars made... Every day on my way to work I see at least 10 of them on the road... My work place is a repair centre for a major brand laptop manufacturer (wont go into details) and being a popular brand of laptop we tend to get a lot back for repair... and you would think by the amount of problems that we hear about the brand isnt very reliable but that is because we sell say 7 out of 10 laptops for this brand and we sell thousands of them. So the average is very low for having one that will become faulty, but we never get calls from users saying that they love the laptop and it works fine, we only hear the about the bad ones. Just like with Peugeot, they mass produced lots of them, so don't get too worried by reports that you hear. Of course though if you still deep down aren't happy about it then you should walk away, just know the facts first  |
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Post by LeeXS on Apr 12, 2005 2:57:47 GMT -5
Thats what I was getting at, cant agree more!!
Also these products are electrical so there are always goin to be problems!!
So did you get the car?
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Post by MarkyBoy on Apr 13, 2005 16:12:19 GMT -5
Yeah ;D I'm now the proud owner of a nice, clean, Silver 1.4, 16v Pug 206! Stop light flashed on me a few times and my radio keeps turning itself off, but other than that, it's Sweeeeet!  |
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Post by M3RAN on Apr 13, 2005 16:17:11 GMT -5
oooh its all down hill from there mate...haha no, the heart attack i got when i bought my car was the engine diagnostic light coming on....thought ahhh god damn iti've landed myself a lemon....
good luck and enjoy your new french fancy
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